Forgot to add one more important bit of informationI do not have any error codes, the red light blinks for standby mode and shows a heartbeat while the pilot light is on and continues despite the burner failing to ignite. correction on part where my friend bets me $100 its the thermo pile should have read Valve. It cant flip up (actually it can if you try hard enough, but then youve probably broken it). That would be nice. As he indicated, YOU DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK! Honeywell Water Heater WV8840B1109 0 Solutions WATER HEATER MANUAL Honeywell Water Heater Wv8840b5068 0 Solutions pilot light blink 4 times every 3 seconds says ove Honeywell Water Heater Gas Water Heater 1 Solutions Not working. Thank you sooomuch and my daughter thanks you, hot water is a must for her. I tried to call Honeywell just to ask and they wont give me any info because I didnt have the model number on me. Much obliged. My storyAfter two years my Honeywell WV8860B1310 gas control valve failed. Thanks in advance. thanks for all the details you put in it. By the way, while searching for more information when this first came up for me, I found one website which had these controllers for sale for $99.00. In this case relight the pilot and try again. I didnt use a battery and just jumped upper left and upper right pegs. The gas valve is a Honeywell WV8840C1406, red led which changes to blue, 1 flash, when everything is working right. And Im paying $30 for a part I shouldnt be replacing? I tried several times, and flushed the tank. I did do a full drain and it was mostly small white particles which is probably from my water softener. Well, tried this with TWO circuit boards (one was original w/red LED, the second was replacement w/white LED). No battery, no removing of circuit board, just a short jumper wire. w.c.) maximum inlet pressure, Body Pattern: 90 degrees with 1/2 in. The Controller should now work normally for a few days to months before it may fault again. I tried a few things and finally did a pilot light start up with everything attached, took the front cover of the module off with the lights blinking X4, the pilot went out and the blinking stopped. We really need to tell the government to BUTT OUT of our lives, Big Brother wants to be my mommy and save me from myself. 1. repeat steps gas valve.. Resetting the #$%@!! I dont seem to see a little white reset button. and then it might come back on or not. DO NOT BUY THIS THERMOSTAT! 2pos honeywell spst usew. reinstalled later in the day and it went to one blink clicked the pilot on and turned to hot and presto! I was reading how you guys help one another and just thought AWESOME! It should not be necessary to completely empty the tank unless it is just full of sediment and you have never tried to flush it out before. Maybe a result of their desire to protect themselves against scald claims and the programmers misunderstanding of high hot might have to be to deliver hot at a faucet that is 75 feet from the tank and serviced by uninsulated lines? Make a jumper out of phone wire about 10 long. Land lord got a hot water heater last week because my old one was leaking. Remember these guys deal with this everyday. Put the cover back on temporarily with the connector still disconnected. Yes my 20 month old envirotemp gas water (purchased from lowes) heater quit and is displaying 4 flashes of death . and I am spreading the word, i bought 2 water heaters for 2 rentals from homedepo with the honeywell (status poop valve), i have no idea how one hasnt blown, (1) 1st. Oh and THISis what it looks like in the little window when your BURNERSare running (water heater is heating). They said it needs to be assessed by a factory authorized repairman. Operating Range: 0 to 150 F (-18 to 66 C)*, *Valve will operate at 0F (-18C) but valve, characteristics can not be guaranteed until, Storage Range: -40 to 150 F (-40 to 66 C), Humidity: 95% non-condensing at 104 F (40 C), This device is certified by Canadian Standards. 4:Follow directions to lite the pilot-light. The two wires to the controller on the bottom right are the two leads to the thermocouple which provides power to the controller and also senses when the pilot is lit. light the pilot and you still get the 7 flashes; however the water heater kicks back on and gets back up to temperature and shuts off as normal and you will see that your light now only flashes 1 time every 3 or 4 seconds. > How can this have been going on for years and not have been fixed? Thanks to this blog and everyones exploits with the Frankenvalve Heres what worked so far for me on a neighbors unit: Thanks! It will die eventually and it would be nice to have the gas valve ready to go. This is really bad! I guess Water heaters are now interactive devices requiring yearly maintenance. Opening hot valve of nearby sink, opening air release valve on top of tank, using 4 inlet pipe to use as a wrench lever to remove the Gas Valve assembly were a few minor but helpful things. Hope this doesnt keep happening. Because of these differences, I would recommend NOT to only replace the board, but to replace everything! The pilot would light and I let it sit for a few minutes running on pilot. I too thought no big deal to turn my water heater up ONE NOTCH!!! contact customer service and see . As for Kenmore and Sears they would send a replacement part our for $185.00 and 2-5 days delivery or since the part is under warranty I could pay $79.00 and wait for a service appointment, then wait for the replacement part to be shipped for me to install. Once you have selected the product category you are interested in, the contact information for sales related questions and technical product related questions will display . So, again Sears says they need to send a repair guy out. Connect the RED and WHITE power wires back on the two connections on the circuit board. my water heater pilot light went out. She did say they were including a return label if I would be so kind to return the faulty part so they could examine why these are giving out so quickly. My model doesnt have a pilot that is lit and stays on all of the time, but rather an electronic ignitor. day installed it i had bad problems to lite, i called Co. they asked if a professional installed it, i told tech ive installed over 15 water heaters & never had this type of trouble, he kind of said that since im not a pro-with licence thats why its not lighting, i told him i didnt like this valve sytem & all 15 water with the old school red dial out lasted the 9 yr some worked till 12 years & why would i ever give $400 to install something i could do & i do know what Im doing just that this system not working at all, i got it 3 years & I got one of the lucky ones, the (2nd one)was built 07/20/2015 i got a call Fri 29th,16 my tenant said water heater stopped working & i had showed him how tom lite it in case im not around & it turns off, he tried many times, depress 1 1/2, 2 min, 3 min & nothing, i got a chance to look into it & i had assumed E-Z fix 5 min ill have it & running, wrong spent hour doing everything instructions had, i asked my tennat at what temp he had it on, he said a lil past the letyter (A) when i installed it i had told him never pass (A) i remember a friend who owns several homes (7) & he told me many nitemare stories of the Honeywell Valve status lite (poop)he was dealing with 7 faulty valves had to pay hotel 3-5 days while they ship parts, even then the water heater co. diagnosed problem wrong, he said a couple times they told him it was the thermopile that was causing pilot lite not to stay on, he waited for part, ordered the Valve although it had warranty but it didnt cover the wasted time, days & hotel for his tenants, but he some how found on his own that setting those types pass the letter (A) the water heater will over heat, thats whats going on with me, i checked everything spark good, pilot lights well but doesnt stay on & the status lite doesnt come on at all, its like its dead, so i called Co. tech guy told me oh thats an E-Z one & no brainner its your thermopile well let me tell my tenants 4 adults 3 teenagers of how E-Z theyll have it for 4 days without hot water you certified (DA=dumb ass)i still didnt feel good about that, i called my friend & my friend said ill bet you a $100 its going to be the thermo pile, call m back & have them send you new Valve & get on YouTube & sites to get help, these sites are extremely helpful, you save money, time, days waiting for part & most likely youll get wrong diagnosed, so Im gearing up & ready to get hot water for my tenants, its a rotten dirty shame that so many people have gotten ripped off by honeywell & no law suits for intentionally selling theyre valves to the water heater makers they too are at fault, at least those of us that can tinker with things are able to FIY i feel for the people who have get a licence person to install, then several months later have the valve burn out, call Co. then pro to install wrong part, wait more days for correct one ? Called the company and basically was told yes we can send a new thermostat/gas control valve for $185.00 + tax +shipping and it may not solve the problem Have a nice day and go for yourself ..what bs . Some of us had moved the controller dial through its full range and subsequently the controller failed with the 4 code. If it does, the fault should clear in a few seconds. Thx loreleaf for the post and pics. I nervously turned the controller dial to the 9 oclock position, the burner burst to life, and today I have hot water again. I tried to jump the posts a few times (Using twist tie wire, no battery) but kept getting the 4 blinks. (White on the right and RED on the left as they would be with the cover on). started getting 7 blinks, felt hopeful, turned it to hot and heard the burner come on. Miller 3/4" Grip. The fault should stay cleared. Rebooted the pilot and set to just below HOT. I followed the last paragraph instructions (what i did take off the cover.) and everything seems to be in working order again with one caveat: when I reattached the front cover with the 3-wire connector unplugged and lit the pilot, I got a 5-flash error (indicating that there was a sensor failure) rather than the 7-flash error. They said call anytime and they can help. Wow, you are the man, I used old speaker wires, a doubleAand masking tape, I dont have any clips, followed your instructionsabout five times, nothinghappening,at one point I did touch the left pin with the positive and heard a click, after that thenext three tries it all worked like you said. This is the second time in a year that I got the 4-flash-overheat failure. Now I have two fail in 27 months. Had to have come Tuesday. Wish me luck tomorrow! Awesome articles you post on your blog, i have shared this article on my facebook. If it finds a fault, it will shutdown. Basically, the minerals heat less efficiently than the water, so the water has to get hotter than necessary. Pilot is lit but the led will not blink red at all it, how to reset this valve. Sears is charging $181.64. Well the throw away attitude has caught up with water heaters. That was their only solution. The next two times we dealt with it in in a very non-technical way. This is actually minerals and should be drained. I checked the voltage from the thermopile: 750 millivolts with pilot light lit while holding in the button. No, Im not participating. Tom. This piece of junk is only 13 months old. I woke up on a Saturday morning to this issue and used your Fault Clear instructions and they WORKED! I called Whirlpool customer service, got the replacement valve for $30 cost of the shipment. Product Support. All, I called Whirlpool and they didnt hesitate to send a replacement which I need overnight because of my work schedule, so the $30 is worth it. [] research briefly mention entertaining ? Hot water is a good thing!! I had issues let the unit sit and drain. At least then Ill have a stockpile when the water heater is out of warranty. The thing is still under warranty for parts, but I have to pay shipping, and wait for it to come, and pay a plumber hundreds of dollars to install the fing thing. Troubleshooting (just to make sure it wasnt the thermal switch or something) I took the board only out of the new valve they sent and put it on there. Get it from e-bay, just look at picture to make sure it only has red & white wires to the right and NOwire to left side under COM.. Got the same 4 blinking lights Saturday . Rheem gets my congrats for the great support and fast shipping. Its definitely a hassle rigging up the battery setup, but I cannot complain with the results. The only material needed is one short jumper or piece of wire. After turning the heater off and shutting off the gas to the unit. Miller Lanyards and Shock Absorbers. and found a guy that removed the board allowing the capacitors to discharge fully, (just by removing the board). HELP !! Light the pilot light as normal. I dont think it is cost effective. If the new valve is basically the same model as the old one, you dont need to pay a plumber to replace the evil valve. Most Honeywell water heaters with electric gas valves need just 12 volts for the valve to work. It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. In any event, my thanks to all of you who suggested steps to take in this matter. Could sediment do this? Called for a replacement through AOS Smith and in the meantime followed Davids How to un-fault a controller mission with success. My control has an additional wire plugged into the bottom of the controller (Im not certain what it does). Instead, the tank becomes unusable. Those two must also be connected which ever method is selected to correct the problem. The clips stay on the wires. Got a 7 blink code which cleared to a 1 blink normal code after a few minutes. Lore leaf, Great post! The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use, in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion, well for water temperature sensing. 1 viewed per hour. Im keeping your method in my hip pocket, though, because it is much simpler. The two wires (red/white) pluged to the honeywell box front rightside, power the box, make sure the wires are not loose, refer to diagram, mine were loose had to reattach with tiny plyers. Franken valve worked! Thanks a bunch! Now, instead of the 4-blink I had a seven blink. I have gone through several failures with this type of water heater (with the Hon. Regardless what I tried, it was still 4 flashes. Still no flashes.) My unit is a Kenmore, bought at OSH New Years day 2012. Tried the reset a bunch of times but could not get it to stop the 4 flashes. I had the unit replaced. All models of WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature sensor. Mwa-ha-ha-ha! However, the length and duration of self-correcting fault conditions rapidly grew more frequent and longer over a matter of days. Also had flushed out the tank. Probably had sediment on bottom and overworked it. Still working so far. They do have technical PDFs for the revision A and B valves thought those sheets do not have Un-fubar information listed. We have a Whirlpool from Lowes. This isnt connected to house current, so dont worry about touching any wires; you wont get a shock. WV8840B1109 Gas Valve for Honeywell Whirlpool Water Heaters - WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042 $42999 FREE delivery Feb 14 - 17 Or fastest delivery Feb 13 - 15 Small Business Honeywell 100262939 Electronic Valve Ng, 2" 21 $19292 FREE delivery Feb 13 - 15 More Buying Choices $184.52 (13 new offers) doctor dead, steampunk adventure set 1904 san francisco, . If you need to, stick the screwdriver in from below to lever them loose. The sediment can build up and surround the stock probe and retains heat insulating the probe and causing the 4 flash situation. You cannot find the old fashion w/heaters that you could lite and forget it. What powers the light? They may just reset it, then charge again for the next time it needs resetting. Speaker wire. I let the water sit until the water in it is no longer hotthe last shower usually takes care of that. All models of WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature sensor. This whole thread is very interesting. WV8840B1110 has been discontinued Discontinued December 15, 2019 This product was discontinued by the manufacturer. Unscrew one screw at the bottom of the gas valve. Thanks for the site.. Guys, this is a great post Thanks I FIXED IT but, make it EASY FOR DUMMIES after spending hours reading this I FOUND the EASIEST WAY to fix the 4 blink issue Just lit the pilot take out the plastic cover with the pilot on, do not disconnect any cords, use aflat-bladed screwdriver. just short (touch) the top 2 left pins( there is a set of 4 pins together use the 2 on the left) and the led light will go off and the pilot will shut off too, put the plastic cover back to the unit and DONE!! All that Sears tried to do was sell me a warranty extension for $199. like this http://www.midlandhardware.com/157481.html?gclid=CNjXnayo0b0CFROVfgodKgsA3A#.U0QkZfldV8E. Clearly the valve controller is mis-designed. Glad I found this post. I cant believe they sent me a dud. I too will never buy another hot water heater with a Honeywell valve! Maybe I can purchase one with the G-D F@*CK*! NOW MY WIFE WILL THINK IM SOMEONE IMPORTANT. any help would be welcome. So, I decided to let it sit overnight and that did the trick for me. Brand New. $211.94. A link in your article would have been nice. For anyone who encounters valve control failure, as long as the problem relates to this particular Honeywell valve controller model (mine was model NU50T61-403), I suggest to go straight to David Boones instruction in this thread for resetting the fault. The Whirlpool helpline says I have to replace the gas valve. Although the majority on this thread are dealing with Whirlpool heaters and the infamous 4 flashes of death, my heater is a brand new Rheem, installed just a couple weeks ago. Bam! I lit the pilot, and the indicator returned to 1 regular blink (the sign of normal function) as the gas flowed to the burner and ignited. It took a while but I hope it is sufficient to extend the life of the valve. You can only find the entire assembly. If you cant get the pilot lit, the thermopile that generates the .75 volt power to the controller will not be generating any power either. After reading through everything in both Cranky and DBs posts a couple more times, finding a 9v battery and making a second jumper wire to try the battery procedure described in DBs post, I went back to the unit, turned the gas supply back on and re-lit the pilot, when BINGO! This is how you can un-fault the Controller or make it check for a fault again (and clear the fault). 5. I would like to pursue the same solution (get a replacement). I would like to add my experience with this hoping it may shed some light. Thanks to this thread and bigger thanks to David Boone and the follow on info from CrankyTenants, after 10+ days without hot water and zero expense my water heater is now performing as intended again. Free 4 day shipping. Its two pins go through the board. These things foul the sensor causing the 4 blink death light pattern. Was sent a new one with a bad (stuck) push button sparker. Be sure the pilot stays on before continuing. free! Again, not a water heater expert, just saying based on my own experiences with the ones in my home. Honeywell WV8840B1109 Gas Water Heater Control Valve. They charged me $30 to ship a new white light control valve and i installed it. The newer ones have been Fixed so they will not reset. About this product. Thanks Randy. Thank you Tyler and all the responses. Super easy. On 21 November, 2014 I performed the fix that Charles described on 29 July, 2014. Wow, amazing! I completely drained the tank and had a little sediment, not much since I have a whole house filter on the incoming supply. 3. After trying multiple things mentioned here I finally unplugged the wires to the board only, tried to ignite then left it for a while and then plugged it in and it lit! The replacement valve I received also has a white sensor light instead of red, and it has a metal capped sensor instead of black plastic. be similar to whats being discussed here, except my Whirlpool has electronic ignition and a flue damper that opens and closes.