The QUEEN ELIZABETH leaving the fitting-out berth at John Brown's. The work, Cunard estimated, would cost 750,000. AB. A week after her arrival at Gourock, the QUEEN ELIZABETH sailed for Suez on 17th June (via Freetown and Simonstown) with reinforcements for the British Eighth Army to help stem Rommel's advance towards the Canal. They were filed at the Register Office of Merchant Seamen, the forerunner of the Registrar General of Shipping and Seamen (RGSS). The cruiser HMAS CANBERRA had lowered a pinnace which was cruising calmly around collecting bags of mail from each. She would then have been remembered as the fine working ship that she undoubtedly was. She was back in New York on 19th August to begin her regular G.I. Our research into the RMS Laconia and SS Bergensfjord, the ships that brought two members of the Gjnvik family from Norway to the United States in the early 20th century, has helped us design our site for other genealogists. Mr C.Y. August 2 - 7 First time a complete division was carried on any ship. As well as state-of-the-art weaponry and communications systems, HMS Queen Elizabeth boasts five gyms, a chapel and a medical centre. The Clyde Navigation Trust indicated that the dredged channel in the Clyde would not be ready before the end of February 1940. These records, which collectively date from 1747 to the 1990s, can providebrief details of ships, the voyages they took and their crew. Sanders Samuel Donald . Following the end of the Second World War, Queen Elizabeth was refitted and furnished as an ocean liner,[9] while her running mate Queen Mary remained in her wartime role and grey appearance except for her funnels, which were repainted in the company's colours. On the return southbound voyages the ships carried Allied wounded, internees or enemy prisoners-of-war, stopping off at Ceylon. When he asked for questions, one boy shot up his arm and asked: "How big were the frying pans?" Within that context, as Sir Percy Bates, the chairman of the Cunard Steamship Company, never tired of explaining: "The two new vessels represent the smallest and slowest ships which can fulfill these conditions and accomplish such a regular service. The QUEEN ELIZABETH left Gourock for the last time as a troopship on 7th August 1945, flying flags which spelled out: 'Many thanks. 160,000 s.h.p. The SEAWISE UNIVERSITY (ex QUEEN ELIZABETH). In mid Atlantic on 6th June she steamed 700 miles at an average of 30.43 knots, her fastest day's run since entering passenger service after the war. The railway company expressed the view that the projected dry dock could not be started for some eight to ten years and that it would take between four and five years to complete. The market could only assume 2,700,000 of the risk. She also has the distinction of being the largest-ever riveted ship by gross tonnage. The Americans were characteristically amazed and within five days had removed the Australian hammocks and bunks, and in their place had fitted fold-down 'Standee' beds, made of tubular steel and easy to clean canvas webbing. Listing Includes Date Voyage Began, Steamship Line, Vessel, Passenger Class and Route. ', The QUEEN ELIZABETH slips away from Southampton for the, last time in the early morning fog of 28th November 1968. TheNational Records of Scotlandholds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. Shuttle'. When Cunard requested that the Americans send over an inspector to approve the improvement work as it progressed, the authorities declined. I joined the Cunard Line in March 1962 as an Assistant Purser and sailed on the QUEEN ELIZABETH throughout that year, before transferring to the Liverpool-based CARINTHIA in November, where I remained as Crew Purser for the next five years. -__________________________________________________________, Cunard Line QUEEN ELIZABETH of 1938, Part 1, Cunard Line QUEEN ELIZABETH of 1938, Part 2, Arrivals & DeparturesQueen Elizabeth Southampton 1950, (from an original painting by Robert Lloyd). The Elizabeth's final round voyage to New York left Southampton on 23rd October 1968. Shipwrecks and maritime incidents in 1947, Shipwrecks and maritime incidents in 1965, Shipwrecks and maritime incidents in 1972, RMS Queen Elizabeth from Victory to Valhalla. That evening the crew was paid off and just 193 were retained to take the Elizabeth on her delivery voyage to Fort Lauderdale. This left only Singapore and the QUEEN ELIZABETH would have to make two stops to take on fuel and water on her voyage from New York. Very few seem to have been preserved in official archives in the UK, although occasionally a Release (List M) for the whole crew may be found with the crew lists inBT 98. Each fin had an outreach of 12 feet 6 inches and was 7 feet 3 inches wide. !!! The QUEEN ELIZABETH sailing from Southampton. The QUEEN ELIZABETH leaving her berth at Pier 90, New York, The scene on the port wing of the QUEEN ELIZABETH's bridge as the, ship swings in the Hudson River before heading down river, across. Evangelist Billy Graham offered 2.1 million for her to become a floating bible school, and the United States Institute of Technology wanted her to become a floating university. Gregg William. The starboard side of the boat deck on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. WebRMS Queen Elizabeth History Pages. Her propellers thrashed the shallow water into billowing clouds of yellow and black as sand and mud were churned up from the sea bed. Queen Elizabeth's 'cherished wish' that she might someday sail in the liner was fulfilled in October 1954 when, by now Queen Mother, she embarked at the beginning of a tour to the United States and Canada. Early in the afternoon of 9th November a large, two-funnelled steamer was sighted, some six to seven miles away. Cunard had insisted that he sail with the ship on her supposed coastal voyage as part of a ruse to throw enemy agents off the scent as to her actual destination. 09:00 to 17:00. The Japanese wanted her for a marine science museum in time for the 1970 Tokyo World Fair. [15] Queen Elizabeth zigzagged across the Atlantic to elude German U-boats and took six days to reach New York at an average speed of 26 knots. By using this site, you accept the use of cookies on your device. Whilst on the G.I. The small vessel's skipper hoisted a flag signal: "What ship is that?" During her 1953 overhaul, two fires broke out on board the QUEEN ELIZABETH in dry dock. The BREMEN's triumphant return to Hamburg after. Suggestions ranged from laying up the Elizabeth in a sheltered Scottish loch to selling her to the Americans. The crossing from New York to Cherbourg - 3,195 miles - was made in 4 days 13 hours and 6 minutes at an average speed of 29.29 knots. Early in the afternoon of 9th November a large, two-funnelled steamer was sighted, some six to seven miles away. Keel laid on December 4, 1936. On 11th July Bates replied asking Piggot to 'think of another good number'. There was now no hope of her entering service as the jewel of the British merchant marine. This anticipated event never occurred and was considered very unlikely to occur, so the well space was plated in and used for additional accommodation. On 27th March 1955 the QUEEN ELIZABETH sailed down the Channel as far as the Lizard to test the new stabilisers. With ' Queen Mary' she provided weekly luxury liner service between Southampton in the United Kingdom and New York City in the United States, via Cherbourg in France. Shuttle'. She was there to launch the second of Cunard's superliners - the QUEEN ELIZABETH. On 5th April 1968 Cunard announced its decision. We can either copy our records onto paper or deliver them to you digitally, Visit us in Kew to see original documents or view online records for free, Consider paying for The QUEEN ELIZABETH's bow, unlike that of the Mary, was heavily raked. The agreements were between master and crew and are also called Articles of agreement. Others speculated that the fires were the result of a conflict between Tung, a Chinese Nationalist, and Communist-dominated ship construction unions. It was not only the declining fortunes of Cunard's passenger business which threatened the fleet of which the QUEEN ELIZABETH was still the flagship. WebThe Cunard - White Star Liner QUEEN ELIZABETH 1938 - 1972 LIVERPOOL SHIPS ACCRA OF 1947 ELDER DEMPSTER LINES AUREOL ELDER DEMPSTER LINES BRITANNIC and GEORGIC CUNARD WHITE STAR CARINTHIA CUNARD LINE EMPRESS OF BRITAIN CANADIAN PACIFIC EMPRESS OF CANADA LOSS BY FIRE Alternatively, browseBT 98/140-563to view all the ports covered for this period and the alphabetical ranges of ships for each port. WebLists can also include passengers who were family members of seamen. The first stop was at Trinidad where she rendezvoused with a tanker five miles off Port of Spain. October 2 Steam locomotives delivered the steel plates, but lighter items were brought in by horse-drawn lorries. The QUEEN ELIZABETH's final season on the Atlantic was uneventful other than for the enthusiasm expressed by her regular passengers who wanted to sail in her just one last time. This rake also gave the Elizabeth a longer overall length: 1,031 feet as against the 1,019 feet of the QUEEN MARY. (The QUEEN MARY had been ship number 534). Two fins were fitted on each side of the hull. The fins were retractable into the hull to save fuel in smooth seas and for docking. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at full speed in the North Atlantic. At first it was proposed that work on the Elizabeth would gradually be brought to a standstill as men transferred to warship work. The first, on 28th January in cabin main-deck 93, was extinguished by Southampton Fire Brigade and the second fire, just twenty-four hours later, was discovered in a C-deck cabin. Tung and contained much well looked after second hand tonnage within its fleet. He presented the ship with a plaque from the Department of Defense to commemorate the liner's remarkable war service. Their high speeds allowed them to outrun hazards, principally German U-boats, usually allowing them to travel without a convoy. The QUEEN ELIZABETH sets off on her 'secret' dash to New York. Barry Claud Barrington. [9][10] It was announced that on 23 August 1939 King George VI and Queen Elizabeth were to visit the ship and tour the engine room and that 24 April 1940 was to be the proposed date of her maiden voyage. The forward Observation Bar on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Commodore Geoffrey Marr compared the departure to the farewell given to the Elizabeth at New York. Shuttle', her first such voyage leaving New York for the Clyde on 5th June 1942. With the passage of time the area of Hong Kong harbour where the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY (ex Cunard - White Star liner QUEEN ELIZABETH) lay has been filled in and a new airport built on the reclaimed land. On 7th August 1946 the QUEEN ELIZABETH entered the King George V dry dock where her 140-ton rudder was inspected. She then stopped for a few minutes before proceeding on her way. Towards the end of 1940 additional seamen arrived on board the QUEEN ELIZABETH, having travelled from Halifax, N.S. By the beginning of March 1940, Queen Elizabeth was ready for her secret voyage. Her carrying capacity was over 15,000 troops and over 900 crew. Digitized Passenger ListsOceanic to Ryndam. She was nonetheless a popular ship. The QUEEN ELIZABETH docked at Southampton at 11.am on 10th October. After leaving Singapore the QUEEN ELIZABETH headed for Sydney. Flt.Lt. A few muster rolls survive in other record series. Search by name of ship inBT 100for the agreements and crew lists of a selection of celebrated ships. Under the terms of the Cunard Insurance Act, Cunard was obliged to start work on the second ship before the Act expired in 1936. He described it as 'a British understatement with a vengeance, as though the British world of ships and shiplovers looked the other way until she had gone. WebNew York State, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1917-1967 to 1962 for NYC (fee-based - at Ancestry) Includes passenger and crew arrival lists (and some departure lists) for vessels that were filed at various ports (such as Binghamton, Buffalo, NYC, Niagara Falls, Oswego, Rochester, Syracuse, and other ports) in the state of New York. Sanders Samuel Donald . Sir Percy Bates told Commodore Bisset: "We do not expect you to attempt to make speed records either on the trials or on the maiden voyage. In early 1955 the QUEEN ELIZABETH was taken out of service for an extended overhaul from 20th January until the end of March. For the first time it seemed possible that two ships could be built which would be able to maintain a weekly express service between Southampton and New York, doing the work previously done by three ships. On the bridge there was the faint sensation of a slight, lurching jolt which some on board never even felt. Archives, Open Government Licence She first entered service in February 1940 as a troopship in the Second World War, and it was not until October 1946 that she served in her intended role as an ocean liner. A/CPO Lornie Peter Barnard. It remained in the NORMANDIE until the outbreak of war, after which it was returned to the Hanley jewellers who made it. [9] For this new tropical purpose, the ship received a major refit in 1965, with a new Lido deck added to her aft section, enhanced air conditioning, and an outdoor swimming pool. Sir Percy Bates stressed that "she would be no slavish copy of her sister". During the turnround in New York on her second G.I. The QUEEN ELIZABETH berthed alongside the Ocean Terminal, at Southampton, taking on bunkers for her next voyage. CPO. at Southampton which was specially constructed for the 'Queens'. From there she sailed to Simonstown (Cape Town) where German prisoners of war boarded, heading for internment in the United States. Be that as it may, John Thorneycroft's staff at Southampton were set a formidable task with the QUEEN ELIZABETH's overhaul in January 1953. However, to stop the QUEEN ELIZABETH would take considerable time. Rodaway Thomas. Neville Chamberlain, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, was convinced that faced with the growing competition from foreign liner companies there was not room for two big British companies acting in opposition to each other on the North Atlantic trade. Between 1858 and the First World War, the Merchant Navy did not keep registers of its seamen, so crew lists and agreements are the only records you are likely to find of an individual merchant seaman during this time. The only signs of White Star which remained were the buff funnels of the BRITANNIC and the GEORGIC. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. In the early morning fog of 28th November 1968, the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton for the last time. As a result only twelve boilers were needed for the QUEEN ELIZABETH, rather than the twenty-four in the, Another obvious difference between the two ships was the lack of a forward well deck on the new QUEEN ELIZABETH. They would follow the natural progression of developments then taking place in marine engineering and in naval architecture. This website uses cookies to improve functionality. On August Bank Holiday, 1950, a yacht cruised across the fairway in the track of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The main record series for muster books isBT 98. Dr Maguire recalled that the cruiser HMAS SYDNEY had been sunk by the German KORMORAN without a single survivor only a few days before, not far from the present position. During this time, and for a while after, she was under American control through a lend-lease agreement. The QUEEN MARY photographed in mid-Atlantic. They hold 70% of the surviving crew lists and agreements for this period. Tonnage: 83,673. On another occasion the Elizabeth had to go full astern because a yacht crossed her path, and as a result the liner's stern touched a mud bank. CPO. The river was also widened in places, especially at Dalmuir where the QUEEN MARY had grounded for many anxious seconds as she proceeded to the Tail of the Bank. A painting by Captain Stephen J Card of the two 'Queens' passing in, mid-Atlantic. It occurred one day out of Ceylon and Dr Maguire remembered waking suddenly because the engines were slowing down. On the orders of the neutral American government (in accordance with the Geneva Convention), only maintenance or construction work of a non-beligerent nature could be carried out on the liners moored along the New York waterfront. The highest number that she carried on any one voyage was 15,932 passengers and crew, but the record for the highest number ever carried in one ship goes to the QUEEN MARY with 16,683. This would involve a great deal of dredging and the removal of rock outcrops that might hazard the ship's safe progress. From there she sailed to Simonstown (Cape Town) where German prisoners of war boarded, heading for internment in the United States. He arrived at seven in the morning on Saturday 2nd March 1940 with sealed orders which were only to be opened when the QUEEN ELIZABETH was out at sea. These agreements are unlikely to be held in any archive in the UK, but if any do survive, they may be in the archives of shipping companies such as P&O or the British India Steam Navigation Company, or in the East India Company Archives held at the British Library. WebHMS Queen Elizabeth during the Second World War 1939-1945. The American liner made 44 Atlantic crossings and carried 70,104 passengers in 1955. With these improvements, Cunard intended to keep the ship in operation until at least the mid-1970s. dry dock at Southampton for annual overhaul. As 1939 wore on, men and materials were taken away from the liner as Admiralty work took priority, and the pace of work on board slowed down. WebThe eight ships which were passed into the ownership of the new concern were - ALPS, ANDES, BRITISH QUEEN, DAMASCUS, LEBANON, KARNAK, TENERIFFE and TAURUS. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. The popularity of the two, The first hint of competition from the airlines came in October 1951 and this resulted in speeding up the turn-round of the ', From the mid 1940s until the mid 1950s both the, The unreliability of statistics - or should it be said the ability to interpret them in several ways - is illustrated in the case of the UNITED STATES and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. How much more dignified it would have been to have broken the ship up in 1968. He had no experience of handling ships as large as the 'Queens' and off Calshot at the entrance to Southampton Water the QUEEN ELIZABETH ran aground. Searchby ships official number in: There is also an index to Second World War log books, agreements and crew lists inBT 385. [21] Queen Elizabeth's engines were capable of driving her to speeds of over 32 knots. 1951onwards October 2 WebHMS Queen Elizabeth is the largest and most powerful vessel ever constructed for the Royal Navy. In all, 2,228 passengers had booked passage on the QUEEN ELIZABETH's maiden voyage. WebThe RMS Queen Elizabeth was an ocean liner operated by Cunard Line. This shipping empire was owned by a Mr C.Y. The original intention was to moor the QUEEN ELIZABETH off Hog island in the Delaware River. v3.0, except where otherwise stated, Merchant Navy ships records: crew lists, musters and log books, Friends of The National While waiting for the messenger, the ship was refuelled; adjustments to the compass and some final testing of equipment were also carried out before she sailed to her secret destination. [19] After 1942, the two Queens were relocated to the North Atlantic for the transportation of American troops to Europe. It was against this background that the Cunard Company began the design stage for two new ships. in the late 1940s, are (left to right): Elizabeth Sayers, Margaret Morton. This information will help us make improvements to the website. The small vessel's skipper hoisted a flag signal: Because of a strike by New York tugboat men there was a possibility that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be diverted to Halifax. Steam was raised on all boilers on 1st March. There were only five dry docks in the world which could accommodate the Elizabeth. This 'Glee Party', as it was known, then toured the vessel deck by deck. Queen Elizabeth leaving New York during her last voyage, 1968. Just over 400 crew (mostly from the AQUITANIA) had joined the QUEEN ELIZABETH at Clydebank, under the command of Captain Jack Townley, signing Articles for a short coastwise voyage which would ostensibly terminate at Southampton where a hurriedly prepared dry-docking plan had been received by the port authority. These earlier records were organised by port of registry and then alphabetically by name of ship (see the respective sections below for advice on finding earlier records). The ship's company was brought up to 465 and at 3.30pm on 13th November 1940 the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH had now been in the water for over two years since her launch on 27th September 1938. [10] Supposedly, the liner started to slide into the water before the Queen could officially launch her, and acting sharply, she managed to smash a bottle of Australian red over the liner's bow just before it slid out of reach. The purpose of the visit was to enable Queen Elizabeth to present the ship with her personal standard, to be framed and hung in the first-class restaurant. By converting water tanks, an additional 1,000 tons of fuel, or about one day's comsumption, could be carried. The first meeting of the two 'Queens' at sea - off Sydney Heads in 1941. Townley and his hastily signed-on crew of four hundred Cunard personnel were told by a company representative before they left to pack for a voyage where they could be away from home for up to six months.[16]. [10] She was to be eleven feet longer and 4,000 tons greater displacement than her older sibling, Queen Mary. The loyalty that she was given by her crew, the lifeblood of any ship, was reflected in the service given to her passengers who patronised the ship in vast numbers time and time again. Neville Chamberlain now had the difficult task of steering the North Atlantic Shipping (Advances) Bill through the tortuous channels of Parliament. The National Maritime Museum holds 10% of agreements and crew lists for 1951-1976. [7], On the day RMS Queen Mary sailed on her maiden voyage, Cunard's chairman, Sir Percy Bates, informed his ship designers, headed by George Paterson, that it was time to start designing the planned second ship. Passenger Lists contained in the GG Archives collection represent the souvenir list provided to the passengers of each cabin class (and other classes). WebThe eight ships which were passed into the ownership of the new concern were - ALPS, ANDES, BRITISH QUEEN, DAMASCUS, LEBANON, KARNAK, TENERIFFE and TAURUS. 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